In this episode of the Huberman Lab podcast, Dr. Andrew Huberman speaks with Dr. Gina Poe about the relationship between sleep and learning, emotional memory, and growth hormone release. The podcast delves into the different phases of sleep, including non-REM and REM sleep, and how each phase impacts the brain and body. The importance of consistent sleep timing for adequate growth hormone release is emphasized, and the podcast discusses how sleep can be used to optimize learning and forgetting.
The podcast also touches on the use of sleep trackers and the potential limitations of measuring only cortical activity during sleep studies. The conversation then shifts to the architecture of sleep and the washout of debris that occurs during the first 20 minutes of deep slow wave sleep. The podcast discusses the importance of waking up and going to sleep at certain times for optimal health, with night owls being at a disadvantage.
The podcast also explores the impact of trauma on sleep and how to reduce the release of norepinephrine from Locus ceruleus during rapid eye movement sleep to eliminate troubling or traumatic memories. The guest speaker suggests avoiding anything that might excite the nervous system before going to sleep, such as stress-inducing video games, and instead recommends deep breathing exercises or a warm bath to calm the sympathetic system.
The podcast also discusses the potential use of lucid dreaming as a tool to help people with PTSD overcome recurring traumatic nightmares. Lucid dreaming can be used to introduce new elements to the nightmare and change the outcome, potentially leading to recovery. The conversation discusses the role of adrenals in the body and how they affect the brain, as well as the relationship between sleep and opiate use, withdrawal, relapse, and addiction.
Overall, the podcast provides insights into the complex relationship between sleep and various aspects of neurological health, including learning, emotional memory, and growth hormone release. It suggests potential ways to improve sleep quality and highlights the importance of consistent sleep timing for optimal health.