#44 – Jeremy Schaap, ESPN journalist: upsets, doping, triumphs, and the importance of sports
Summary

In this podcast episode, host Peter Atia discusses his reasons for not running ads on his podcast and instead relying on listener support. He offers exclusive content to subscribers, such as show notes, transcripts, and access to ask me anything episodes. The guest for this episode is Jeremy Shap, a preeminent journalist at ESPN, and they discuss sports, the history of boxing, and the story of James J Braddock, which was the basis for the movie Cinderella Man.

The conversation revolves around the significance of boxing legends Joe Lewis and Buster Douglas. The speaker praises Joe Lewis for his athletic ability and social impact, including his famous rematch with Max Baer. They also discuss Buster Douglas's historic victory over Mike Tyson, which was initially seen as a fluke but was actually a dominant performance. The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding the context and history of boxing to truly appreciate these legendary fighters.

The conversation also touches on the comparison between Joe Lewis and Muhammad Ali. The interviewer mentions that they did not interview Tyson for their project on the Buster Douglas fight, but they had previously interviewed him in 2017. Tyson spoke about his lifestyle at the time of the Douglas fight and admitted that he was not fully committed.

The context is a conversation about various topics related to boxing and sports. The conversation touches on Buster Douglas' victory over Mike Tyson, his subsequent decline, and the sea-change in the heavyweight division with the introduction of athleticism. The conversation then shifts to a discussion of Bobby Knight and his infamous interview with the speaker.

The context is an interview with a sports journalist who discusses his experiences growing up with a father who was a legendary sports caster. He talks about how he was not worried about living in his father's shadow and how he compares himself to his father's work ethic. He also talks about the importance of fairness in journalism, which he attributes to his father's teachings.

The context is a conversation between two individuals about the impact of sports on society. The first individual discusses how the loss of their father during the 9/11 attacks made them reassess their relationship with sports but ultimately did not change it. They also discuss how sports can bring people together, provide a platform to discuss societal issues, and showcase the physical and mental abilities of athletes.

The speaker discusses various topics related to sports, including doping in cycling and the impact of head trauma in football. They express their belief that performance-enhancing drugs exist in most sports, but some sports are relatively clean, such as swimming in the United States and Australia. The speaker also mentions the undetectability of human growth hormone and its prevalence in track and field.

The speaker discusses their intuition that steroids are the drug of choice in most sports and questions the long-term harm of their use. They also discuss their favorite 34:30 documentaries, including "The Two Escobars," "The Night Show," and "Bo Jackson." The conversation then shifts to the topic of athletes and steroid use, specifically Barry Bonds and the controversy surrounding his potential induction into the Hall of Fame. The speaker also reflects on the importance of sports and the life lessons they teach, as well as the universal joy they bring to people around the world.